I think it would be a bit on the light side for duiker and baboon. Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad. Hallo, kann mir jemand die Unterschiede der Kaliber 17 HMR, 22 WinMag und 22 Hornet kurz erläutern ? As previously mentioned, the .22 Hornet is a superb 100 to 150 yard 'yote gun. Not bad at all, but when it comes to comparison with 17 HMR, 22 Long Rifle is a weaker solution. The .17 HMR, it does a number on Squirrel, Rabbit and even known to destroy the meat. I love mine. Blows up small stuff, too small for medium/small stuff. You can also subscribe without commenting. The 17 grain.17 HMR load confers about 40 additional yards of range on the varmint and small game hunter. You would be much better served from a practical viewpoint by a 22 WMR. I can tell you the 17 HMR is effected by the wind more than any other caliber other than a 22 cal pellet rifle. The .22 mag power starts to wane after 100 yards, and .17 HMR may be a better choice beyond that. : The Ultimate No Shit Guide I find them too light for coyotes and bobcats. The .17 HMR loadings and/or rifles appear to be more consistently accurate. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. Feeling restless, I was able to fill my whitetail tags and do some coon and coyote trapping. By Ron Spomer. Well, don't get me started on the .17 Ackley Hornet! They can buy it cheaply, and they can feed it cheaply as well. Better still is the .17 Hornet round. This 17 HMR rifle is an ideal solution for short-game hunting and those who are at the beginning of their hunting journey. A chamber for ammunition is one of the great features that come together with the rifle in the same package. The Browning T – Bolt also has a 22-inch barrel and the simply adjustable trigger that makes it easy to use. Assuming a 200-yard zero for both cartridges, and using a 20-grain bullet for comparative purposes, the .17 Remington will hit about two inches higher at 300 yards than will the .17 Hornet (4.6 inches of drop for the Remington vs. 6.4 inches for the Hornet), yet in the hands of an experienced rifleman, that difference can easily be accounted for. The 17 HMR shoot straighter, farther, and is more destructive down range. But when it comes to bigger pests, there's one that performs better than the other. But when it comes to bigger pests, there's one that performs better than the other. 0. The only modern single shot I have regretted selling was an older TC Contender Hornet with the fairly thin 10" oct barrel. The 17 and 6.5 needed quite a few to settle in. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. Some 17 HMR rifles can use different and bigger calibers, which is even better. https://www.africahunting.com/threads/zambia-zambian-adventure-takeri-game-reserve.24291/, https://www.africahunting.com/threads/zambia-hunting-report-takeri-private-reserve-zambia.16298/, https://www.africahunting.com/threads/zambia-takeri-reserve-zambia.24065/, https://www.africahunting.com/threa...eller-safaris-coenraad-vermaak-safaris.32091/, https://www.africahunting.com/threads/my-african-knives.26296/, https://www.africahunting.com/threads/africahunting-com-hunting-knives.40515/, https://www.africahunting.com/threads/the-von-gruff-jt-ranger-knife.42359/, Ruger’s Forgotten Gold Label: Everything Its Name Suggests, SOUTH AFRICA: BOWHUNT: Matswani Safaris Aug/Sept 2016, SOUTH AFRICA: Spiral Horn Safaris RSA 22 June - 5 July Buffalo & PG - 1st Timer. I’m leaning towards the .17HMR. The 22 Long Rifle or just 22 LR is also a hunting rifle cartridge developed by American firearms producer J.Stevens Arms & Tool Company in 1887. No (low) recoil, low noise. On the other hand, 17 HMR does not have so many sales and that is where it falls in comparison with 22 LR. We owe it to the varmints to make a clean humane kill. On the other hand, if the rifle is too loud and hard to manage, then that might have an opposite effect on those without previous experience with firearms. It is almost a century and a half old. Tally-Ho HUNTING SAFARIS wrote on Pondoro's profile. Never any issues but as always proper bullet placement. Last on the list of these rimfire cartridges is the .17 HMR. #1403323 - 10/30/09 06:15 AM Re: .17 HMR vs .22 Hornet [Re: Rob in Alaska] borkon Die Hard Member with a vengeance Registered: 04/05/09 Posts: 4056 Loc: minnesota .22 hornet for sure. That is clearly one more advantage of 17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire in comparison with 22 Long Rifle. With 30-grain bullets, factory .22 WMR loads can top 2,200 fps, which is still about 900 fps slower than Federal's TNT .22 Hornet load with the same weight bullet. If you’re looking for meat, the 22LR is a great choice for hunting squirrels, rabbits and birds within 75 yards. That is probably the biggest drawback here. Has accounted for countless hogs from when I lived in Florida and Georgia as well as coyote, bobcat, deer, various varmints, etc. The 17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire’s projectile reaches longer distance, and it is more accurate with stronger impact. It is three times as expensive as .22 LR ammo but … I have 2 of them and both shoot 1/2". It has a 22-inch barrel that is very simple to manage, clean and adjust. If you look at the federal ballistics for wind and drop the .17 beats the 22 wmr hands down, even the 50gr 22 wmr has more wind drift than the .17 at 150 yards. When searched online, the average cost of 17HMR is $15 per box containing 50 rounds, and it’s $5 per box in the case of 22LR. If so, the 22WMR is a better tool than the 17 HMR. Patriotic Hunter is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon. How To Zero a Red Dot? With a 40 grain bullet, the 22WMR sends it along at 1880 fps. The list below presents five best 17 HMR rifles on the market. Stuff tends to explode. The body diameter is .269 while the .17 HMR is .238 inch. When comparing the Hornady 30-grain.22 WMR V-Max load with the brand's 35-grain V-Max.22 Hornet load from rifles with equal-length barrels, the results are telling. The KIDD .22LR Classic Ultra Lightweight Sporter Rifle is a quite different weapon than other 22 LR rifles and it is regarded as the best among them. Most rimfire rifle builders chamber for both. Recoil and muzzle blast are low, particularly from a rifle. On a coyote with a 6″ vitals area, Maximum Point Blank Range or MPBR for short, is handy to compare how flat they … Loading cost of the .22 Hornet is cheap. 3. Im lucky to have lots of prarie dogs to shoot! The 22 Hornet has been a favorite of mine since I was a kid and I still have a Ruger and a custom that gets a fair amount of Pdogs every summer. 6.5 Load Development Part 1. It is even prohibited to hunt deer with such small bullets in the US because you would just end up wounding it, and the animal will stay alive in the woods to suffer from bullet injuries. If you’re looking at 22LR for high accuracy, then you’ll have to spend more on ammo like CCI .22LR Stinger. It is easy to manage and simple to break up on two separate parts without any tool. There is no doubt 22 LR cannot compare with 17 HMR when it comes to shooting from larger distances. As discussed in the earlier section, 17HMR is worth the price but in the case of plinking it totally depends on your preference. Its design is very nice with fine wood and quality steel, making an attractive combination. Low noise and recoil can stimulate beginners to train more efficiently falling in love with this sport. Survival. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 20 of 27 Posts. Because of the .17 HMR higher velocity, it is LESS affected by wind (just run it through a simple ballistics program if you don't believe me). It will cost you a fortune to get started with that though - custom gun, custom dies, no factory ammo available. Wondering what’s better, 17 HMR or 22 LR? You can unsubscribe anytime! I have 2 of them and both shoot 1/2". The .17 HMR and .22 WMR are both useful varmint and small game cartridges. Subscribe for the Latest One of a Kind Updates! The Savage B-Mag Rifle is great for recreational and target shooting as well. Bei Wiki gibt es noch keinen 17HMR Eintrag. They took the strongest rifle case and redone it to new dimensions. It also had a flatter trajectory than the .22 Magnum, but all is not as it seems. Mounted a little 2X LER scope on it- absolutely scary accurate with 50 & 52/53 gr standard .224" whatever bullets and normal Hornet powders like 4227. It weighs 4.9 pounds while the rifles above are slightly heavier. Both rifles have 24-inch barrels and stretch about 43.25 inches end to end. you can,t use a SAK moddy on a Hornet ( SAk is for rimfire only), you will need a c/f moddy ( i use a T8) the HMR is great out to 175 yrds but not much more, i recently shot a few bunnies with the Hornet and my mates words were--you,ve liquified the insides of them ! The Alexander Arms .17 HMR is an advanced rifle with a very interesting design, great abilities, and features. The .17 HMR is the necked-down version of the .22 WMR (.22 Magnum.) The price of $1150 is the only drawback when it comes to this rifle. Also, when looking at the trajectory chart we can agree that it makes more sense to compare 22 WMR to 17 HMR as they’re somewhat closer in stats. When the V-Max.22 Mag load is zeroed at 100 yards it drops almost that same amount at just 200 yards. Ballistics Calculator by Hornady. The .17AH will frequently only make one tiny hole but it has a lot more thump than the .17 HMR. You have to be really keen to take on that sort of rifle! Read more. 6.5 prc ammunition availability in South Africa. amzn_assoc_placement="adunit0";amzn_assoc_search_bar="false";amzn_assoc_tracking_id="popover08-20";amzn_assoc_ad_mode="manual";amzn_assoc_ad_type="smart";amzn_assoc_marketplace="amazon";amzn_assoc_region="US";amzn_assoc_title="My Amazon Picks (22 LR Scopes)";amzn_assoc_linkid="2e23c5100d6cc434d08381551071f3ad";amzn_assoc_asins="B001RMWTJA,B001JJCHWK,B07G8MHY62,B00SMX95IA"; 17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire or just 17 HMR is a rifle cartridge created by Hornady in 2002. Top #1403378 - 10/30/09 08:55 AM Re: .17 HMR vs .22 Hornet bamayote23 Die Hard Member II … This is a substantially larger case. Some of them will be mentioned here. Driving a 20-grain 0.172-inch bullet to 3000 fps, the .17 WSM sits at the top of the heap as far as rimfire cartridges are concerned, and comes in just 500 fps or so behind the .17 Hornet. I would say, 17HMR is safer than 22LR for pest control only because they have got a lesser chance to ricochet. (Ron Spomer/) Availability & Pricing. If you’ve any questions or suggestions please comment below and i’ll get back to you. Hunting. Let’s end the suspense right now. La .17 HMR . com. Montana L&C #5. Ruger 10/22 is the second on the list among 22 LR rifles. The slight five-degree shoulder of the .22 Hornet was radically steepened to a 25-degree shoulder and blown-out to increase case capacity. If you want a beautiful but efficient rifle, this might be the right choice for you. Drilling for Oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Two Perspectives from Alaskan Outdoorsmen . December 11, 2016. I have a .17 HMR and have used it successfully on rabbits, prairie dogs and have seen it used on a Bobcat. Are you confused? A ballistic shootout with three of the best rimfires of all time. Its weight stands at 5.19 pounds. It is ideal for the African tiny 10 ... As well as , for varmints . S. sir-lamp-alot Well-Known Member. I get better groups with a soft, yet firm hold on the rifle. Obviously, the rifle has a much longer history than 17 HMR. November 18, 2019. By Ron Spomer. Try it once. I find them too light for coyotes and bobcats. But 22 LR also has many advantages despite its long use and the date of the production. However, just as the .22 LR was an evolution of the .22 Short and .22 Long that preceded the legendary design, the .22 Winchester Rimfire Magnum became an upgrade of the .22 LR, giving greater velocities and more striking energy. However, as I am a beginner at rifle shooting, I’m only interested in shooting paper/metal targets. There are also some really great 22 LR rifles available out on the market, and a few are going to be mentioned here too. petesvintagegunsandammo.com (Ron Spomer/) Availability & Pricing. Die .17 Hornet, der Sohn der klassischen .22 Hornet, die unsere Großväter gerne schossen, ist eine ausgewogene Konstruktion. … With a 17HMR, you can easily take down groundhogs, rabbits, raccoons at 175 yards, thanks to its high speed and accuracy. If budget is not an issue, then the Nightforce NXS is the best overall. If you’re looking for yet more speed, check out the 204 Ruger as it sends a 40 grain bullet out at 3900 fps. But considering its performances, you will definitely get a high-quality weapon with great features. 1. En 2002, Hornady a présenté le .17 HMR, sur la base des .22 WMR. August 18, 2017 . Moreover, 17 HMR is way accurate than 22 LR. That is helpful for those without previous experience in hunting for those who are still in the learning process. In the case of 17 HMR, the bullet trajectory is fully flat to 100 yards (due to its high velocity), but there’s a huge drop in the case of 22 LR. 17HMR, on the other hand, would destroy the meat in such smaller distance. In fact, its impact is much stronger than what a lot of people think, and the bullet can break through 10 drywall panels from a 10-yard distance. 17HMR rifles, on the other hand, are powerful but are a pain to clean because of the narrow barrel they come with. The .22 Hornet will reliably shoot 3/4 inch 100 yard groups with 1/2 inch coming often enough to keep you interested while … The .17 WSM cartridge case is 1.2 inches long vs. the .17 HMR at 1.058 inches. Alternatively, the older .22 WMR — the inspiration behind the .17 HMR — is still a good fox cartridge. The 22 Long Rifle and all other subtypes, such as 22 Short, 22 Long and 22 Extra Long use heeled bullets. 222 Remington would be okay on baboons with carefully placed shots. Often ricochets might also be a concern with .22 caliber, especially with target shooting that involves a larger number of people in the surrounding. Patriotic Hunter is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon. POI. A 223 Remington will send a 40 grain bullet screaming downrange at a blistering 3600 fps. You save money, barrel life is a little longer, and the 17 Mach 2 is still a much more potent cartridge than the .22 LR. The rifle’s trigger is highly adjustable, and you can accustom it from 1.5 pounds to 5 pounds. The Best Long Range Scope Under $1000: Reviews (2019 Recommendations), Photo By Mikehelms [CC BY-SA 3.0], from Wikimedia Commons. 17 HMR due to its high velocity makes much more noise than 22 LR, and they are overly loud. The first three shot well out of the gate. 17 Hornet 367 Yard Rabbit | How to. You are using an out of date browser. 22 LR is cheaper, not as straight and cannot shoot as far. It looks much more like Colt Ar – 15, than like other small caliber rifles. However, a .17 bullet is much faster than its counterpart and ricochets are less likely to occur. The .22 mag. That is how they succeed to kill them. The 22LR is a good choice for plinking and small game hunting within the range of 75 yards. They are all the same quality level and their positions on this list mean nothing at all. Where 17 HMR steps out is when you’re cleaning up and pickings are slim. A rock chuck taken with a .17 HMR. Most ammunition manufacturers load for both. JavaScript is disabled. Posts: 1,480. Rimfire Showdown: .22 WMR vs. .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM. The >17 is usually loaded with a .17 gr bullet. They can enjoy the sport with low costs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In fact, Hornady developers necked down .22 magnum case to only .17. Is that correct? It will be a great choice for target and varmint hunting. Driving a 20-grain 0.172-inch bullet to 3000 fps, the .17 WSM sits at the top of the heap as far as rimfire cartridges are concerned, and comes in just 500 fps or so behind the .17 Hornet. As far as reloading is concerned, I reload for the 22 but would imagine loading for the smaller version would be difficult as there is so little powder involved any slight variation would affect accuracy. 22 LR rifle is equally popular among beginners who are still a part of the learning and training process, and among those with a high level of expertise on the matter. I have never fired a .22 mag, but i'm sure its much better. Due to the higher price and the high velocity, 17 HMR bullets are expected to work way better than the 22LR. Then in 2002 Hornady decided to try a new twist on the.22 Magnum by necking down the case to.17 caliber in an attempt to meet the ballistics of the old 5mm rimfire. It was introduced in 2002 by Hornady, and has found a home as a 200-yard varmint gun. com. Latest. The .204 would be a good baboon cartridge, but hardly versatile for all the species listed. Hi, thanks for commenting. 17 HMR vs 22 LR Trajectory. The Hornet load, when zeroed at 200 yards, drops 17.1 inches at 300 yards. 2. A 17 HMR will send a bullet that’s half that weight (20 grains) at 2350. While it kicks the venerable .22 Magnum’s proverbial tale, a magic bullet it isn’t. Small bullets cannot kill big animals easily. It is easy to handle while the design is pretty nice. I have even seen the .22 Hornet successfully drop cheetal deer , here in Bangladesh . More Guns. Thanks to this development, 17 HMR is now officially the fastest hunting rifle ever made. In all categories except available rifles. round.) Winner: 17 HMR. POI. Both the .17 HMR and .22 WMR are well-suited. Schwergewicht für mich ist diverses Raubzeug und höchstens Fuchs. Since you are a beginner and you’ll be plinking, I would suggest to go with the 22LR, since it’s beginner friendly and the setup itself is a lot inexpensive than others. it will be to big for marten though. I had Hornets in a martini and a savage along with a mod 70 22-250 in the late 70's and always wanted something with the capabilities of the 22-250 with the manners of the Hornet and have found the perfect compliment of the two in the 20 VarTarg. 1; 2 ... No one can dispute that the .223 is a far more powerful round but as said above .223 vs .22 hornet is apples vs oranges.Variety is the spice of life and both calibers have a pride of place in my gun cabinet in the form of a Browning X-BOLT IN .223 and my CZ527 Hornet. The max effective range for a 17 HMR is 250-300 yards and it’s well accurate. The rifle costs $600, but it definitely worth every penny. Let us compare the CCI .22LR Stinger vs CCI .17HMR TNT to keep things fair. Still feeling the Africa bug. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Browning SA-22 rifle takes the first place among 22.LR rifles. Some hunting reports for Takeri Reserve Zambia posted by members of AfricaHunting.com: You must log in or register to reply here. With a 100-yard zero, the 20-grain .17 WSM bullet drops but 1.2 inches at 150 yards and 4.1 inches at 200 yards, giving a very usable trajectory from a rimfire rifle. This rifle is also great for small game hunting with an ideal caliber to finish it successfully. Using the .22 WMR mentioned above as a parent case, the .17 HMR uses a necked down .22 WMR case to fit the .17 caliber bullet. It has been serving for the purpose from the beginning, and the bullet is faster and more precise now. Regardless of better performances by the 17HMR, 22 LR still holds the first place when it comes to popularity. If you properly eliminate the danger of ricochets, then that would change everything. But its functionality is also quite more similar to AR – 15, and except for .17 caliber, it can fire .223 caliber bullets as well. Campfire Regular. The .22 Hornet should be confined to targets within 150-175 yards. My CZ 527 .22 Hornet with Hornady 35 gr. So a .22 Hornet round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 710 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .22 WMR Winchester Magnum Rimfire round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 340 pounds over the same one foot distance. In 2002, ballisticians at Hornady decided it was high time to shake things up and neck the.22 Magnum down to.17 caliber; the.17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (HMR) arrived with much fanfare. POI. The manufacturer wanted to replace old 5mm Remington Magnum Rimfire that was developed in 1970. I … You can harm someone that way, so you have to be careful while using this rifle for such type of shooting. I would HIGHLY endorse the .22 Hornet . It is too small for coyotes. I got a 17hmr for long range squirrel hunting, but it blows them up. The 17-grain projectile reaches a much greater speed that goes over 2,250 feet per second, and it is usually destroyed after striking hard materials and objects. 22LR drops a lot after 100 yards but 17 HMR shows the slowest drop and has a flatter trajectory as compared to the 22LR’s. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Ammunition and rifles for both are widely distributed and commonly available. The 17 HMR is a 22 wmr necked down to 17 cal. Could even have been a limited experimental barrel??. The first three shot well out of the gate. Most ammunition manufacturers load for both. If you shot at some big animal or a full-grown man, there is a high probability that they will stay on their legs. Why 308 is the Best for Hunting | Comparing .308 vs .223 and .30-06. Those who use this cartridge for coyote or wolf hunting, they target their heads. MT_DD_FAN. Even 17HM2 is louder than 22LR. I have a mate who takes great care in headshooting rabbits consistently in the 150 yds range with his .17 HMR, & a good few @ 100 with .22LR, but when needs must, out at 300 + he slides a little & neck ties em with a .223. The .22 WMR—commonly referred to as the .22 Mag—I feel is better suited for coyotes when compared to the .17 HMR. Overall thought, the .22 WMR is a handy little varmit rimfire that gives more range than a .22 LR..17 HMR. The Mueller APV is another good choice if your budget is below $150. Latest. To get a better idea take a look at this bullet trajectory for the .17HMR, .17HM2, .22LR and .22WMR. The Browning T – Bolt takes the second place on this list. 0. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa. Campfire Regular. It includes the rifle’s affordability, low noise, and minimal recoil. 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